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• 6/26/2017

Deaths or Died?

It looks like we have two competing categories for the same thing, so we should try to pick one...

I lean toward "Died", but maybe prefer just "Dead".

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• 6/27/2017

I would prefer that all of these synonymous categories be joined into a single one called "Deceased".


Well, AlbertEpstein, I guess I've just muddied the waters.

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• 6/27/2017

Deceased is fine. BTW, you can't "join" categories per se. You just have to delete the tags from articles, put the new one on and delete the old category pages.

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• 6/27/2017

Fandyllic wrote: Deceased is fine. BTW, you can't "join" categories per se. You just have to delete the tags from articles, put the new one on and delete the old category pages.

Yup, I was aware. It's actually far more fatiguing than most anticipate.

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• 6/27/2017

I was thinking it'd go smoother if our noble admins would just write a script that did the job.   I don't think anyone else can actually delete a category.

If not, that's the manual process I'd expect to have to wrestle with.

Dead or Deceased are equally good to me.  The word "Deceased" is considered more delicate terminology to fluent speakers I suppose.  Not sure that other languages make such a distinction

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• 6/28/2017

Yeah, there is no "script" to move categories. You have to work up a bot, which is kind of a pain. Once you have one running, it isn't so bad.

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• 6/28/2017
Is the bot something prefab with fixed tasks? Is it dynamic/programmable have function calls and take parameters? I was thinking more along the lines of a "once and done" bash shell kind of situation.
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• 6/28/2017

AlbertEpstein wrote:

I was thinking more along the lines of a "once and done" bash shell kind of situation.

Definitely no "once and done" solutions. There is something semi-automated that sounds pretty straightforward, but I haven't tried it: CategoryRenameAuto-update at Dev wiki.

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• 7/13/2017

Going through with the intent to get the transition started or at least create a baseline,....


It struck me that this might be a case more than with all the other tags where we have a need for a "(Books)" variant and a "(TV)" variant as in

"Category: Deceased (Books)" and "Category: Deceased (TV)"

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• 7/13/2017

Yeah, unfortunately you may be right.

Should I set up a poll for this? With choices like:

  • Category:Deceased (Books)/Category:Deceased (TV)
  • Just Category:Deceased
  • Just Category:Dead
  • Category:Joined the choir invisible (just kidding)

Once we decide I can work on a bot to make the change.

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• 7/13/2017

Unfortunately, I already started switching some characters so at the moment, we have three competing categories.  I'd like to get this settled and fixed quickly if we can.


P.S., Also, we might consider using the category sorting feature. wherein when you specify the category, you also choose the sort for that category's page.  I think it might be of interest to consider the Deceased sort as the book and chapter or as the episode number which effectively would sort ordered chronologically date of passing.  We can take this into account now or defer it.

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