The admin stuff was just to update the info and link for editing the Mobile main page and give a link to the MediaWiki:ImportJS page. The Addition to ImportJS was to see Discussions activity more easily. There should be a new link at the top (just under the page title) of Special:WikiActivity and Special:RecentChanges to see Discussions activity.
Do you know whether there's a convention or recommended replacement for the number sign in names of articles?
So many of the character credits for the show include names distinguished by an ordinal/integer preceded with a number symbol. This creates a problem when naming pages to match character/role names. Any link including the number symbol will be treated as a hash which is an internal named anchor label the rest of the character/role cannot be used to distinguish pages thus without a substitute all the characters would wind up pointing to the same article.
I had some ideas but, I figured you were the best person to ask in case someone had come up with an elegant solution to the problem already. My candidates:
❶omit the number symbol for the link itself. Use "DISPLAYTITLE" magic word to reinsert it for readers of the article itself
❷replace the number symbol with a similar-looking and related character such as
U+FE5F ﹟ SMALL NUMBER SIGN (HTML ﹟)orU+FF03 ＃ FULLWIDTH NUMBER SIGN (HTML ＃)
Can you give an example where this is a problem? Or, a link to an image where you see the '#' used in credits? You may be confusing '#' used in an anchor link with '#' used in a page name which is either not allowed (which appears to be the case, as it will be blocked by a global spam filter in Fandom's case), will be URL encoded (%23) for use in a link, or just appear in the link label (most likely case, see below).
Also, I'm not sure why you need to have #1 or something like that in a page name anyway. There is no really good reason to have a page name match something in a list that doesn't appear commonly except in credits. You can just make a link like: [[Name of something|#1 Name of something]] → #1 Name of something
Fandom isn't blocking them but, following the HTTP protocol, it is treating them as internal anchor link in the page as you mentioned. I've found no way to escape it and I don't think escaping the character is supported. It seems you haven't encountered any other wikis experiencing this issue.
If that is the case, we'll need to determine how we want to address it for ourselves. I just didn't want to start a convention that nobody else follows or understands.
Okay. I tested it and wrote it up. I hope it's clear enough and there is not confusion.
I added a subsection header and did a little re-writing.
The article itself cannot use the html entity syntax and must have the literal substitution character.
I'm not sure what this means ("literal substitution character")... You can definitely use ＃ in a local link (see the source of my comment above). You should also be able to navigate to a page using the URL encoding method (URL equivalent of CPM ＃1): http://expanse.wikia.com/wiki/CPM_%EF%BC%831
I can't remember if you have to convert it to utf-8 before converting to hex for url encoding to work. I assumed it should've worked if you just put [[CPM %ff%03]] but I can't recall an instance where I ever tried.
If I'm not mistaken, that looks like it's been utf-8 encoded then the hex codes from that put in with percent signs. If that works best, we can put that in as an option. It might not be the prettiest version nor the most easy-to-remember but it might be the most reliable.
Either the entity or the UTF-8 encoded version should be fine. Since most of the cases where this will be used are minor characters, it shouldn't be too much of a burden. We just gotta hope the Corey twins and the show runners don't decide to turn someone with a '#' name into a major or recurring character. Investigator ＃3 *shudder*
Actually the link above showed me that you need to use ＃ for link labels.
The UTF-8 in URL percent notation is really long and awkward. Putting in the the character directly using copy and paste seems easier. I'm sure that behind the curtains it's stored and transmitted in UTF-8 anyhow. Most likely, I'll either copy and paste the character without URL percent notation or use the HTML hex entity encoding. It's working so far
Georgia Lee probably who I would blame if they make a major character out of one of those. Not because I think she'd do it. I think if I start pointing fingers at her she might feel obliged to fix it. I don't know how active any of the others are but I get the sense she's behind the heavy lifting in the writing room meaning the others come up with the major plot lines and she ends up filling in most of the blanks. She does seem to have her name on every piece of writing. Just in front of Hallie Lambert. LOL
Seriously, if they convert one of those minor characters into a major one, they'll assign him a new role name and most people will just refer to him by the new name. We'll have to just create a redirect or point the credits on the old name with the link directly at the new name. They did it with CPM #15 anyway. He's later referred to as Onudo. Similarly, "Pock Mark" got a new name of "Filat Kothari". Pock Mark's buddies went from "Menacing Belter #1 & #2" to "CPM #7 & #6" respectively when they joined him on Eros, though.
do you share your email with Tobias and Mystical? how about google hangouts?
It certainly looks like I'm stubborn. While that may be true, my last post on that thread started before Nemo's "Trivia Definition Dissussion" post. It just happens that he'd posted before mine was saved and edited. I made several edits and reloaded before finally seeing his "definition discussion" post. In hindsight, that may make it appear like I'm trying to perpetuate the controversy or more so than I'd intended. That may have ripped off the bandage and reopened sore wounds.
Me asking the other admins is just creating another "layer of bureacracy" which is unnecessary, when you could just as easily do it yourself, and it is something your going to have to do anyway, if you wanted to implement it.
As someone who took management classes that reviewed the US laws concerning safe and supportive work environments, that comment wouldn't come close to something "actionable".
Maybe you need to read those reference materials a little bit more closer.
If you let this go unanswered, you are allowing the matter to escalate out of hand.
Also, if someone shames another for having an idea different than their own, how is that constructive dialog. The answer to that question is, it isn't.
So Admin, it is up to you to set the tone of appropriate behavior and you don't have to poll in order to do the right thing. If you can't be bothered that is another matter entirely.
Hmmm... The connections are pretty weak. At most, The Expanse version of New York has some thematic similarities to Blade Runner Los Angeles. I wouldn't call The Expanse future really dystopian. Compared to present day, it's practically utopian.
Ask some of the other admins what they think. Also, propose some specific ideas of how to tie the two together, otherwise I can't think of much.
Followup; Your saying The Expanse is not dystopian:
Earth has a true "World Government" because of climate change and other shared problems.
Thinking a world government is dystopian must make Star Trek dystopian. Climate change and shared problems are now largely inevitable, so something that is very likely real now usually doesn't make it dystopian, it just makes it futurism.
The outer planets are being colonized because Earth "sucks". Quite literally.
The outer planets can be colonized. To me that is utopian. The current pace of space technology funding is so much smaller compared to the moon shot period that colonizing anything off the earth sounds quite positive to me, regardless of the situation on earth.
Unless someone explicitly says this from the writers' room, I would still take this only as your opinion. Without 2001: A Space Odyssey and maybe Space: 1999, there would be no Expanse. The connections to Blade Runner are still very weak.
As in Blade Runner, the only people who can leave Earth are the rich and the healthy, as oppose to everyone and anyone who wanted to leave Earth was free to do so.
Obviously, I talking about the television adaption. Historically speaking , in the past if you wanted to colonize an area, you would offer free land in the case of the United States and Chile, or the Assisted-Passage scheme to promote migration from the UK to Australia during the post-WWII period.
Do programs of that nature exist in "The Expanse" , or even alluded to.
My premise is to generate traffic here, and if anything at all your weak.
Your an admin now, you need to be more constructive in your arguments.
Since the film was inducted by the Library of Congress, National Film Preservation Board into the National Film Registry Listing, it invites comparison. The "2001" film franchise focuses primarily on what happens in a shuttle or a space station with a handful of people. They explored the outer planets but they did not colonize it.
"Blade Runner" takes place in an urban environment, as in what happens when you have a large collection of people in small space. The same goes for "The Expanse", but not only on Earth but on the outer planets and on space stations as well, which might as well be a small city.
Also, if this were truly Utopian, it would be boring. Who would want to watch a show without any sort of drama or crisis
I thought it might've been better to let everyone pick their first, second, and third place from a complete list so long as there's a mechanism to prevent picking the same for more than one slot. votes for first would be weighted with a better score.
This would 've made the survey look shorter and would still be manageable with a top three for each of five or six categories.
I threw out the list basically using a bunch from the character page but I expected there would end up being some discussion before we got the final list. picking from a list of 60 or even 120 would still be manageable versus giving a 1-to-10 rating for each and every one.
even on Reddit, there are people who didn't recognize the names. If we have time to plan the next survey, I think we'll want to put more time into giving short descriptions for each nomination of perhaps a sentence or the chapter they first get named/mentioned/appeared
"duel etymologies" probably should be put in quotes. I only vaguely remember the moment in the book. I also thought it was a strange phrase but the guy who nominated it on Reddit was firm. I didn't bother to go back to check the book after that.
I still prefer a survey on google forms to a survey using the forms here on this wiki.
According to the article, the show is in danger of being cancelled. Even though the show was approved for season 3, there may not be a season 4 if the Syfy channel does not see an uptick in the ratings for the upcoming season. The author suggest that everyone either watch the show or buy the episodes from itunes or some other platform.
Even though the article maybe outdated, the author did bring up some pressing issue about stimulating demand and we need to take this seriously.
If you need any help to brainstorm any ideas with Fandyllic or Mystic-ArchAngel, just let me know. We have till the begining of next year, and I was hoping we can have some traction by then
Hey! First off, I want to thank you for all the great contributions you've made to this wiki. Since I'm not around as much nowadays, I've made you and AlbertEpstein admins. You don't have to use your privileges if you don't want to, but feel free to improve any area of the site as you see fit, preferably by continuing the already excellent communication that seems to be present between you, AlbertEpstein and the most active admin, MysticalArchAngel.