I've recently contacted FANDOM about the creation of more Featured Videos on our wiki. They gladly accepted!
Per our agreement, they will submit their scripts to be reviewed by us, to make sure all information is correct, and we can too create scripts and send them to the staff for review and acceptance.
Here is the list of pages they had already added to the queue for F. Videos:
Per my request, they've added the UN and the MCR to the list. And, of course, a video about the most important aspect of The Expanse - the Ring network - feels imperative, but we first need to wait for Season 3 to progress enough so that we gain enough visual material.
Let me know what videos you think we should start scripting ourselves. They let me know that they already had a task open for Jim Holden, so we can strike that out. I believe we could start writing the script for Avasarala, Drapper, and Johnson (in that specific order).
I will second the Belter Creole article. I was going to suggest also if there's an article about UN & an article about MCR , there ought to be one about the Belt /Belters particularly about their atrophied physiology and need for mineral supplements and growth stimulants.
Do we need something for gravity? flip-and-burn? the juice? crash couches? or will those all be adequately covered by the Epstein article? Will they mention "office-building" ship layouts? no "up" when "on the float"?
will the videos all be about the TVshow or the Books? It would be much easier to get content for the TV show but I don't want to leave the books out. Is there a way to walk the line and not make statements in these videos that are either show-specific or book-specific?
As far as inclusion of an article on the ring network are concerned, there is a chance that season 3 may conclude without revealing the ring network. That reveal may be part of early season 4 which may end up being late 2019 or even 2020. We should be prepared for emphasizing the other topics.
Anyway, regardless, we need to settle on the videos we want to script ourselves, and we need to do it fast. So, your suggestions? (Remember, any video FANDOM scripts will be reviewed by us as an accuracy check).
Honestly, I didn't want to bring the TV vs. Books argument to the table. We already have a ton of videos in their queue. Perhaps after all videos on the current list are completed, I will contact them about videos for books characters.
Or, if not, we could create one single video for both incarnations and only mention the differences between the two in the video.
That was my point we have to make a deliberate choice. It isn't practical to do separate sets of videos for TV and Books.
So, we make a decision to create all videos following a rule that we strictly and consistently adhere to one of the following guidelines. We avoid making the decision or the script ad hoc. These types of things don't normally complete themselves on a single pass nor do they within minutes.
cover both TV+Books but avoid any and all mention of any factoids that vary or are distinct between the two
cover both TV+Books and explicitly state the distinctions between the two
cover both TV+Books broadly/loosely and avoid mention of distinctions but not strictly/completely
I think we should segregate the videos about TV from books. Also, I'm not sure how interesting a video about book stuff would be... If we do cover book stuff, it would need fan art or something... these aren't blog posts.
The series of cocktails we highlight is a popular topic and the catalog continues to grow. As such, in my opinion, it becomes increasingly crucial that we provide an attractive and effective way to exhibit it.
I would like your input on the most ideal ways to present the collection/catalog of cocktails.
My thoughts are to implement many of the features available from the storify implementation initiated by "djpiebob", linked at the bottom of the Expanse Cocktails page. In particular, group together supplemental tweets for each entry in the series and make the groups scroll together as a unit within a side-scrolling gallery. Furthermore, I'd like to make each use transclusion rather than having viewers directly visit a full-blown wiki article for each cocktail entry within the catalog. I am also pondering whether to create a namespace for these transclusion components.
I understand it may be more orthodox on a wiki to simply turn each of the cocktails into a dedicated article and provide a category name then list the collection on a combined category index page but, there might be real advantages to creating a side-scrolling advanced custom gallery.
It's a module that admins can add. I've seen it on other wikis and always thought it was pretty pointless and tacky. The people who care should already know where to look and probably need better information than the add-on module can provide. the add-on module has a manual component that only provides a benefit if it is applied consistently and even then the use-case benefit is pretty marginal. I'd like to revert back to not having it active in the panel.
The admin stuff was just to update the info and link for editing the Mobile main page and give a link to the MediaWiki:ImportJS page. The Addition to ImportJS was to see Discussions activity more easily. There should be a new link at the top (just under the page title) of Special:WikiActivity and Special:RecentChanges to see Discussions activity.
Do you know whether there's a convention or recommended replacement for the number sign in names of articles?
So many of the character credits for the show include names distinguished by an ordinal/integer preceded with a number symbol. This creates a problem when naming pages to match character/role names. Any link including the number symbol will be treated as a hash which is an internal named anchor label the rest of the character/role cannot be used to distinguish pages thus without a substitute all the characters would wind up pointing to the same article.
I had some ideas but, I figured you were the best person to ask in case someone had come up with an elegant solution to the problem already. My candidates:
❶omit the number symbol for the link itself. Use "DISPLAYTITLE" magic word to reinsert it for readers of the article itself
❷replace the number symbol with a similar-looking and related character such as
U+FE5F ﹟ SMALL NUMBER SIGN (HTML ﹟)orU+FF03 ＃ FULLWIDTH NUMBER SIGN (HTML ＃)
Can you give an example where this is a problem? Or, a link to an image where you see the '#' used in credits? You may be confusing '#' used in an anchor link with '#' used in a page name which is either not allowed (which appears to be the case, as it will be blocked by a global spam filter in Fandom's case), will be URL encoded (%23) for use in a link, or just appear in the link label (most likely case, see below).
Also, I'm not sure why you need to have #1 or something like that in a page name anyway. There is no really good reason to have a page name match something in a list that doesn't appear commonly except in credits. You can just make a link like: [[Name of something|#1 Name of something]] → #1 Name of something
Fandom isn't blocking them but, following the HTTP protocol, it is treating them as internal anchor link in the page as you mentioned. I've found no way to escape it and I don't think escaping the character is supported. It seems you haven't encountered any other wikis experiencing this issue.
If that is the case, we'll need to determine how we want to address it for ourselves. I just didn't want to start a convention that nobody else follows or understands.
Okay. I tested it and wrote it up. I hope it's clear enough and there is not confusion.
I added a subsection header and did a little re-writing.
The article itself cannot use the html entity syntax and must have the literal substitution character.
I'm not sure what this means ("literal substitution character")... You can definitely use ＃ in a local link (see the source of my comment above). You should also be able to navigate to a page using the URL encoding method (URL equivalent of CPM ＃1): http://expanse.wikia.com/wiki/CPM_%EF%BC%831
I can't remember if you have to convert it to utf-8 before converting to hex for url encoding to work. I assumed it should've worked if you just put [[CPM %ff%03]] but I can't recall an instance where I ever tried.
If I'm not mistaken, that looks like it's been utf-8 encoded then the hex codes from that put in with percent signs. If that works best, we can put that in as an option. It might not be the prettiest version nor the most easy-to-remember but it might be the most reliable.
Either the entity or the UTF-8 encoded version should be fine. Since most of the cases where this will be used are minor characters, it shouldn't be too much of a burden. We just gotta hope the Corey twins and the show runners don't decide to turn someone with a '#' name into a major or recurring character. Investigator ＃3 *shudder*
Actually the link above showed me that you need to use ＃ for link labels.
The UTF-8 in URL percent notation is really long and awkward. Putting in the the character directly using copy and paste seems easier. I'm sure that behind the curtains it's stored and transmitted in UTF-8 anyhow. Most likely, I'll either copy and paste the character without URL percent notation or use the HTML hex entity encoding. It's working so far
Georgia Lee probably who I would blame if they make a major character out of one of those. Not because I think she'd do it. I think if I start pointing fingers at her she might feel obliged to fix it. I don't know how active any of the others are but I get the sense she's behind the heavy lifting in the writing room meaning the others come up with the major plot lines and she ends up filling in most of the blanks. She does seem to have her name on every piece of writing. Just in front of Hallie Lambert. LOL
Seriously, if they convert one of those minor characters into a major one, they'll assign him a new role name and most people will just refer to him by the new name. We'll have to just create a redirect or point the credits on the old name with the link directly at the new name. They did it with CPM #15 anyway. He's later referred to as Onudo. Similarly, "Pock Mark" got a new name of "Filat Kothari". Pock Mark's buddies went from "Menacing Belter #1 & #2" to "CPM #7 & #6" respectively when they joined him on Eros, though.
do you share your email with Tobias and Mystical? how about google hangouts?
It certainly looks like I'm stubborn. While that may be true, my last post on that thread started before Nemo's "Trivia Definition Dissussion" post. It just happens that he'd posted before mine was saved and edited. I made several edits and reloaded before finally seeing his "definition discussion" post. In hindsight, that may make it appear like I'm trying to perpetuate the controversy or more so than I'd intended. That may have ripped off the bandage and reopened sore wounds.
Me asking the other admins is just creating another "layer of bureacracy" which is unnecessary, when you could just as easily do it yourself, and it is something your going to have to do anyway, if you wanted to implement it.
As someone who took management classes that reviewed the US laws concerning safe and supportive work environments, that comment wouldn't come close to something "actionable".
Maybe you need to read those reference materials a little bit more closer.
If you let this go unanswered, you are allowing the matter to escalate out of hand.
Also, if someone shames another for having an idea different than their own, how is that constructive dialog. The answer to that question is, it isn't.
So Admin, it is up to you to set the tone of appropriate behavior and you don't have to poll in order to do the right thing. If you can't be bothered that is another matter entirely.